March 05, 2006

The Intarwubs Hurts My Brain

AZN NAZI PRYDE!

16 comments:

wannatakethisoutside said...

wtf!?!

icarus said...

i am SO CONFUSED.

Anonymous said...

can i start a conversation here - i am wondering why progressives are into nazi stuff?

is it an attempt at a "reclaiming" thing? i don't get it.

i don't think that swastikas or anything nazi is really worth reclaiming so i guess i just don't understand why this stuff is appearing recently in what are usually toned as anti-racist, anti-homophobia spaces

icarus said...

i feel like "progressives are into nazi things" is kind of a huge and silly generalization. i'm certainly not "into nazi things."

but i agree that i am confused about the recent posts. em0/bat_dor - wanna chime in/contexualize this?

Anonymous said...

i didn't mean to make that generalization. i didn't say that all progressives are into nazi things.

i just meant that i don't understand when they are.

icarus said...

ah.

i doubt either poster is "into" nazi iconography, but i agree that such symbols need to be displayed and contextualized in a way that is mindful of their historical baggage and connotations.

emily0 said...

I am not into Nazi imagery. I saw this pic when online and thought, "What the fuck, yo?" Therefore, I posted it.

I mean, it's two Asian girls standing in front of a Nazi flag with armbands and weird, military-cum-stripper outfits on. What's not to love, at least in the what the fuck!?!?!? sense.

And that's what Quench is all about, man. Gender, sexuality & what the fuck!?!?!?

Incidentally, I have not at all noticed a tendancy for progressives to be into Nazi stuff.

Anonymous said...

although i find this photo to be post deffinitly disturbing
last year at my school a bunch of kids got offended because an asian kid was wearing a bracelet with swastikas on it and it was expained that in some cultures it has a differant connotation that has to do with peace and isnt associated with nazi ideals.
just thought id thow that in there

Anonymous said...

my apologies for my crappy spelling job above...

wannatakethisoutside said...

Em0, thanks for explaining why you posted it. I guess I tend to think WTF types of things are funny/good, it was just the two wtfs in a row about nazis that confused me.

I guess I just didn't understand the "WTF" context to begin with, and would have been definitely confused if I didn't know you really well already.

Sometimes things need contextualizing, especially online.

emily0 said...

The swastika (turned in the other direction) is also a non-Western symbol of life and the sun. It is the symbol for Buddhist temples on maps in Japan and China and also used in Hindu and Central Asian imagery.

But that's unconnected, no one mistakes the eastern swastika with the Nazi one, even in Asia. Also, the Nazi swastika turns in the wrong direction, which is the bad one.

wannatakethisoutside said...

I am reanalyzing my reaction - I guess here it is. My WTF reaction was primarily to swastica's on the front page of quench.

I am confused as to why it makes it extra WTF-ish that there are asian women portrayed.

I mean, maybe it's because I got stuck on the swastikas. And quench. And the swastikas. And quench.

But now I'm hear "I mean, it's two Asian girls standing in front of a Nazi flag", but, I man, two white girls standing in front of a nazi flag would make me go WTF.

And extra WTF if they were on the frontpage of quench

emily2 said...

uh, maybe they were cryogenically frozen in japan in 1944? and they still think it's still WW2?

really, i have no clue. what tards.

tea cozy said...

maybe it's the prelude to some asian nazi porn --- I'll bet you ANYTHING there's a market for that.

Either that or it's for a Spike Lee movie. ;)

emily0 said...

Note that in the background, there's a package that seems to read [Something] Castle Wolfenstein, which is the name of an older video game wherein you are a US soldier behind enemy lines during WWII.

Anonymous said...

Ummm, just to correct an earlier post, while it is true that many Jains, Buddhists and Hindus use a swastika turned in the opposite direction to draw a distinction between their symbol and the nazis, technically, there is no "good" or "bad" swastika and both right and left facing versions are widely used in Asia as they have been for thousands of years.
Incidentally (and only slightly off-topic), the term Aryan actually has nothing to do with "white supremacy" - it's simply the Sanskrit word for "noble" and would obviously apply more properly to (Asian) Indians than blond haired/blue eyed Germans.